Descendants of Lewis ap David of Cardiganshire, Wales

Lewis Family DNA Test Results

 

Locus Group

1

2

3  
 

Locus

02 13 20 21 23 33 34 35 36 37  
Lewis
Group
R1b #6.1

DYS #

3
9
0
4
5
8
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
-
2
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8

Haplogroup

#1 1. Walden Lewis
Spotsylvania Co VA
#49497 [Me]
25 17 19 31 15 17 35 36 12 12 R-DF27
2. Taverner Lewis
Spotsylvania Co VA
#447439 [37/37]
25 17 19 31 15 17 35 36 12 12 R-M269
#2 3. John Lewis
Caroline Co VA
#26660 [66/67
25 17 19 31 15 17 35 36 13 12 R-DF27

#3

4. Reuben Kennedy
Culpeper Co VA
#311607 [37/37]
25 17 19 31 15 17 35 36 12 12 R-M269
5. William Young
Page Co VA
Other Project [66/67]
25 17 19 31 15 17 36 36 12 12 R-M269
6. Joseph Lewis
Caroline Co VA
#230494 [66/67]
25 17 19 31 15 17 36 36 12 12 R-M269
7. Joseph Lewis
Caroline Co VA
#515842 [*66/67]
*A mismatch at either A or B or both is considered a single mismatch. 
25 17 19 31 15 17 36 37 12 12 R-M269
#5 8. James Lewis
Lincoln Co MO
#252469 [35/37]
25 17 19 30 16 17 35 36 12 12 R-M269
9. Yelverton Lewis
Woodford Co KY
#793881 [66/67]
25 18 19 31 15 17 35 36 12 12 R-M269
10. Yelverton Lewis
Woodford Co KY
#39239 [34/37]
24 18 18 31 15 17 35 36 12 12 R-M269
11. James Lewis
Louisa Co VA
#22948 [65/67]
25 17 19 31 15 16 35 35 12 12 R-M269
#6 12. John Lewis
Franklin Co KY
#232573 [37/37]
25 17 19 31 15 17 35 36 12 12 R-M269
13. Edmund Lewis
Person Co NC
#219831 [36/37]
24 17 19 31 15 17 35 36 12 12 R-M269
  14. James McDonald [36/37]                      

My DNA Results

49497 Walden Lewis
b. 1774 Virginia
 d. 1843 Jasper Co MS
R-DF27 DF27+, L23+, L278+, L389+, L51+, M269+, M343+, P297+, P310+, P311+, P312+, PF3252-, PF6610-, PF6714-, PF7562-, PF7589-, PF7600-, S1026-, S1051-, S11493-, S11601-, S12025-, S1567-, S16264-, S1688-, S18632-, S18827-, S7721-, SRY2627-, U106-, U152-, U198-, V88-, Y5058-, Z156-, Z16500-, Z17-, Z18-, Z1862-, Z195-, Z198-, Z209-, Z2103-, Z2109-, Z225-, Z251-, Z253-, Z2542-, Z255-, Z2573-, Z295-, Z3000-, Z301-, Z302-, Z326-, Z36-, Z367-, Z381-, Z49-, Z8-, Z8052-, Z9-, M73-, MC14-, M335-, L513-, L584-, L617-, L881-, M1994-, M222-, L408-, L47-, L48-, L371-, L238-, FGC20761-, FGC22501-, FGC3861-, FGC396-, FGC5301-, FGC5336-, FGC5344-, FGC5345-, FGC5351-, FGC5354-, FGC5356-, FGC5367-, FGC5373-, FGC5494-, FGC5798-, L1335-, L2-, L21-, DF41-, DF49-, DF63-, DF81-, DF83-, DF88-, DF95-, DF99-, F2017-, F2691-, F2863-, FGC10516-, FGC11134-, FGC13620-, A1773-, A2150-, A274-, A4670-, A517-, BY2823-, BY2868-, BY575-, BY653-, CTS10429-, CTS11994-, CTS1751-, CTS3386-, CTS3937-, CTS4466-, CTS4528-, CTS5330-, CTS5689-, CTS6937-, CTS7763-, DF103-, DF110-, DF17-, DF19-, DF21-, CTS11567*, FGC14641*, Z296*, Z17300*

 

The Y-DNA Comparison Utility

The following genetic calculations were created using the following variables:
1 generation = 25 years
Sample size = 37 markers
Mutation Rate = Derived from the Sorenson Database
Possibility of Mutation = > 50%
<http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html?mode=ftdna_mode>

Calculator Output

FTDNA Configuration - DNA Results Comparison
  ID D
Y
S
3
9
3
D
Y
S
3
9
0
D
Y
S
1
9
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3
9
4
D
Y
S
3
9
1
D
Y
S
3
8
5
a
D
Y
S
3
8
5
b
D
Y
S
4
2
6
D
Y
S
3
8
8
D
Y
S
4
3
9
D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
1
D
Y
S
3
9
2
D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
2
D
Y
S
4
5
8
D
Y
S
4
5
9
a
D
Y
S
4
5
9
b
D
Y
S
4
5
5
D
Y
S
4
5
4
D
Y
S
4
4
7
D
Y
S
4
3
7
D
Y
S
4
4
8
D
Y
S
4
4
9
D
Y
S
4
6
4
a
D
Y
S
4
6
4
b
D
Y
S
4
6
4
c
D
Y
S
4
6
4
d
D
Y
S
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
H
4
Y
C
A
I
I
a
Y
C
A
I
I
b
D
Y
S
4
5
6
D
Y
S
6
0
7
D
Y
S
5
7
6
D
Y
S
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
D
Y
S
4
4
2
D
Y
S
4
3
8
1 modal 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 35 36 12 12
2 Charles- R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 35 36 12 12
3 John-Fkl R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 35 36 12 12
4 Lit-Kenn R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 35 36 12 12
5 Wm-Young R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 36 36 12 12
6 Jose-Car R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 36 36 12 12
7 John-Car R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 35 36 13 12
8 Edm-Pers R1b 12 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 35 36 12 12
9 Jams-Lou R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 31 15 15 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 16 35 35 12 12
10 Jas-Linc R1b 12 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 10 10 11 11 24 15 19 30 15 16 16 16 11 11 20 22 15 15 18 17 35 36 12 12
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

Calculator Output

Genetic Distance
  ID m
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R
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L
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R
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b
W
m
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Y
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R
1
b
J
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s
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C
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R
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b
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R
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P
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R
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R
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1 modal 37 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 2 2
2 Charles- R1b 0 37 0 0 1 1 1 1 2 2
3 John-Fkl R1b 0 0 37 0 1 1 1 1 2 2
4 Lit-Kenn R1b 0 0 0 37 1 1 1 1 2 2
5 Wm-Young R1b 1 1 1 1 37 0 2 2 3 3
6 Jose-Car R1b 1 1 1 1 0 37 2 2 3 3
7 John-Car R1b 1 1 1 1 2 2 37 2 3 3
8 Edm-Pers R1b 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 37 3 3
9 Jams-Lou R1b 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 37 4
10 Jas-Linc R1b 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4 37
Related Probably Related Possibly Related
- Infinite allele mutation model is used 
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested

Calculator Output

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Generations)
  ID m
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a
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C
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J
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R
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L
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R
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b
W
m
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Y
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R
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b
J
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C
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R
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R
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m
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R
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J
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R
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1 modal 37 3 3 3 8 8 8 8 12 12
2 Charles- R1b 3 37 3 3 8 8 8 8 12 12
3 John-Fkl R1b 3 3 37 3 8 8 8 8 12 12
4 Lit-Kenn R1b 3 3 3 37 8 8 8 8 12 12
5 Wm-Young R1b 8 8 8 8 37 3 12 12 17 17
6 Jose-Car R1b 8 8 8 8 3 37 12 12 17 17
7 John-Car R1b 8 8 8 8 12 12 37 12 17 17
8 Edm-Pers R1b 8 8 8 8 12 12 12 37 17 17
9 Jams-Lou R1b 12 12 12 12 17 17 17 17 37 22
10 Jas-Linc R1b 12 12 12 12 17 17 17 17 22 37
0-9 Generations 10-19 Generations 20-29 Generations 30-39 Generations
- Infinite allele mutation model is used 
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0031 to 0.0031
     rates derived by Doug McDonald from the Sorenson database 
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested 
- Probability is 50% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated 

Calculations

Prior to 2014, the Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor [TMRCA] in generations was calculated using FTDNA standards which are now antiquated.

The second mutation rate selection uses the FTDNA derived mutation rates. This includes a rate of 0.00399 for the first 12 markers, 0.00481 for markers 13 through 25, and 0.00748 for the markers 26 through 37.

    Y-Utility: Y-DNA Comparison Utility, Ysearch Mode <http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html> 12/2014.

Using the Y-DNA Utility, FTDNA Mode and the specific mutation rates per marker, we have significantly different results.

Calculating distance to MRCA by Generations

A relationship and distance in generations can be calculated by comparing the number of mutations and applying the average mutation rate for a haplotype. I use the following:

Time = Difference / average mutation rate
T = [1/37] / .0045
T =  .027  / .0045
T =  6 generations

Hopefully, there will come a non-algorithm type, simple mathematical formula which allows us to input the mutation rate for individual markers to solve for TMRCA.

Mutation Rates - McDonald values, derived from Sorenson
Lee DNA Genweb <http://leedna.com/dnaresults.php?rates=1> 12/2014.
 
DYS393 DYS390 DYS19/394 DYS19b DYS391 DYS385a DYS385b DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389-1 DYS392 DYS389-2
0.0009 0.0033 0.0015 0.0015 0.0030 0.0018 0.0028 0.0003 0.0004 0.0042 0.0020 0.0011 0.0024
 
DYS458 DYS459a DYS459b DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449        
0.0053 0.0008 0.0014 0.0003 0.0001 0.0033 0.0014 0.0019 0.0060        
 
DYS464a DYS464b DYS464c DYS464d DYS464e DYS464f DYS464g            
0.0026 0.0030 0.0038 0.0035 0.0035 0.0035 0.0035            
 
DYS460 GATAH4 YCAIIa YCAIIb DYS456 DYS607 DYS576 DYS570 CDYa CDYb DYS442 DYS438  
0.0030 0.0030 0.0008 0.0017 0.0053 0.0056 0.0078 0.0061 0.0101 0.0103 0.0030 0.0009

Manual Calculations

Name Distance Loci Rate Calculations
1. Walden Lewis of
Spotsylvania Co VA
Original Line - - # Gen - Yr per Gen Years
2. Taverner Lewis of
Spotsylvania Co VA
Original Line - - - - - -
3. John Lewis of
Franklin Co KY
Original Line - - - - - -
4. Reuben Kennedy of
Culpeper Co VA
Original Line - - - - - -
5. William Young of
Page Co VA
1 mutation 34 - CDYa 0.010083861 8 x 25 200
6. Joseph Lewis of
Caroline Co VA
1 mutation 34 - CDYa 0.010083861 8 x 25 200
7. John Lewis of
Caroline Co VA
1 mutation 36 - DYS442 0.00301618 8 x 25 200
8. Edmund Lewis of
Person Co NC
1 mutation 02 - DYS390 0.003263219 8 x 25 200
9. James Lewis of
Louisa Co VA
2 mutations 33 - DYS570
35 - CDYb
0.006111277
0.010276061
12 x 25 300
10. James Lewis of
Lincoln Co MO
2 mutations 21 - 449
23 - 464b
0.006024892
0.002973977
12 x 25 300

Analysis

In the last decade, great strides have been made identifying new SNPs down the human genome. And, anthropologists have been able to match these mutations to specific places on the timeline of human history. With this information, we can affix our forefathers to specific times and places in the migration of modern man.

Back when, anthropologists investigated whether R1b1a1a2 [M269], who emerged during the Neolithic Period, was connected to Cro-Magnon Man and the cave paintings of the refugium in southern France. And if connected, Subsequently, M269 could have been the group who followed the retreating ice shield north across the land bridge to Britain and Ireland. With new information gained more recently, those possibilities have been put to rest. The following is updated as of 7/2015:

At the end of the last Ice Age, modern man migrated up the river valleys into central Europe, settling both east and west of the Rhine River in what is now southern Germany and France. From this central location, their descendants emigrated out to the far reaches of Europe. DF27, our forefathers, first settled in what is now northwest Spain c. 2,250 BCE where they developed new technologies and established themselves as a trading nation on the Atlantic coast. And in about 1,000 BCE, our forefathers emigrated first to Ireland and later to Scotland and Wales.

Why was our family in Wales? Was it pressure from the invading Romans or the subsequent pressure from the invading Saxons? And, did our people ex-migrate out of Wales into southern England to the vicinity of Bristol or Wiltshire, England, before coming to America? We do not know.

The modern history of our family begins about the time when British colonists--we the Bretons, not the Anglo-Saxon English--braved the Atlantic Ocean to found Jamestown and the Colony of Virginia. In about 1650 or 12 generations ago in Virginia, our Lewis family split when the family of James Lewis of Louisa Co VA and the family of James Lewis of Lincoln Co MO split onto two new branches.

In about 1750 or 8 generations ago in Virginia, the family split again onto three new branches. First the family of Edmund of Person Co NC, then the family of John of Caroline Co VA, and then the families of Joseph Lewis of Caroline Co VA and William Young of Page Co VA split onto individual branches. Note, Joseph Lewis and William Young are the same branch of the family. The question is, "What's their story?"

This leaves the Walden Lewis family of Mississippi and the John Lewis family of Franklin Co KY and now the Rueben Kennedy family of Culpeper Co VA continuing on the original line. Continuing research indicates that the Rueben Kennedy family is also associated with the previously mentioned Joseph Lewis and William Young branch. Again, the question is, "What's their story?" And, the Walden Lewis family has circumstantial evidence which links them to the Lewises of Spotsylvania Co VA.

CE Lewis
Davenport IA
updated 7/11/2015

Caveat

This site is provided for reference only. Except where specifically cited, information contained is conjecture and should not be considered as fact.
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